Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Today's Facebooking


  • Just out of interest, what are your beliefs re: contraception?





Sean Gilley So condoms, yes, but the pill no? Thats very weird.



Abolish Human Abortion I suggest you read our explanations why.
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Sean Gilley I have. I find them to be weird. Just my opinion though, which was arrived at thanks to my individual sense of morality.



Sean Gilley You can't. For all you know you are a brain in a jar being fed stimuli. 

Personally I think that's a liberating feeling.


  • Rho Logy \\For all you know you are a brain in a jar being fed stimuli. \\

    OK, so nothing is wrong then. No reason to seek truth. All existence is literally absurd, which includes questions about contraception.
    So is the question "does Sean Gilley think my opi
    nion is weird?" Absurdity. 

    So why do you care about any of this? I'm going to live consistently with YOUR stated worldview and just not care about talking to you imaginary people. 

    #reductioadabsurdum
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Go read this article "You say that as if it were a bad thing"

By John Bugay, in reply to the very, very common and very, very intellectually dishonest Roman Catholic 30,000 33,000 40,000 denominations "argument".

Friday, January 18, 2013

Norman Abortuary Outreach Report, 18 Jan 2013


It has become possible for me to take every other Friday morning off so as to spend time with fellow abolitionists and evangelists at the abortuary in Norman, OK.

Here is the report of today's activities. It was a time blessed by the Lord. 
Trey and Jeremy were out there about 7:15. I got there around 7:45. Numerous cars were already there, so I guess if we want to catch the employees, we'll have to arrive earlier.

We had an AHA sign and we were spending time in prayer and reading Scripture aloud. 

One of the first interactions, if not the first (I forgot already LOL) was a girl who came out and stood behind her car to smoke. As we were proclaiming the law to her, she at first activated the car alarm to drown us out. After a few minutes of that, we were agitating her and then a young guy came out, like 16 years old. Young face, high school student. As we proclaimed to both of them and were agitating them to go back inside and pull their friend out of the slaughter, the guy got very upset. He started cussing us out and telling us he would beat us if we didn't shut up. We did not shut up and expressed our sorrow that he was so angry and he continued to threaten us. then he came up quite close to us and raised his fist several times. We looked at him sorrowfully and told him we didn't want him to hit us but that we would not be silent. I think he came this close to taking a swing at us (at which point we were going to scatter and flee). Several times he was getting in our face, mostly in Trey and Jeremy's face, though we were all saying things. Maybe he didn't see in me a threat, haha. 
Eventually he turned away but told us that if we continued our proclamation when his girlfriend came out, he would attack us. he then went back inside with the girl. they later emerged with the girl who no doubt had an abortion and drove away without further incident. 
It left me physically shaken a bit... I guess the confrontation affected my body and I needed to hunch over to recover for a few minutes. But I got better quickly.

Shane arrived and commenced preaching thru his amp towards the abortuary door. We wondered if they could hear inside, and we found out later they could.
The rest of us prayed and as we saw people going in, Shane and we would engage them.

I preached later. Then Shane a few more times. 

A young man drove by with a drive-by comment, Shane invited him to come back and reason with us, and he did! We were surprised. He turned out to be reasonable and we had a short and useful conversation. Pray for David.

There is a window into the abortuary right next to the sidewalk. I decided to preach loud into that window for a while. the blinds closed about halfway through, though I couldn't see inside anyway, so I knew someone was listening! 

Three Romanists showed up to stake some signs into the public easement grass and to pray the rosary that abortion might be ended. This is the very definition of doing evil that good may result.

Four cops showed up later, took our names, and eventually told us that we could possibly be cited for disturbing the peace if we were loud enough to be heard inside the clinic. Obviously, any further info about whether that's actually going to hold up in court will have to be determined after consulting with an attorney, so we will do so. But we decided the heck with it and kept doing what we were doing once the cops left. :-)

Right at the end, we had an outstanding, amazing opportunity. A lady had brought a teenage girl and the girl had gone in and the lady was sitting in her car outside. I raised my voice to address her and shared the law with her and encouraged her to go in and get her friend. She said something I couldn't really hear, and when she stopped I went on a long impassioned spiel about God's law and the chance she had right now to go in and get her friend to save the baby. 

When I finished, she looked at me sadly and said, "But what if the abortion was a week and half ago?"

Ah, well, that changes things.
I then shared the Gospel of God's glorious grace because of Jesus. How Jesus frees us from condemnation, transforms us, gives us grace to say no to sin. Etc. It was great and I asked her to share it with - it turned out to be her daughter in there - her daughter once she came out. 
The daughter did come out and sat in the car for a moment before I realised that I should address her too, so I did. Both of these women's hearts appeared so soft to the Lord and so convicted of sin. Our hearts went out to them! I told Cherish that Jesus can forgive her, not to waste the opportunity to come into right relationship with Jesus, etc. 

In the end her mother, Jackie, took a 180 DVD and a "How to have eternal life" booklet from Shane. Pray for Jackie and Cherish.

Tuesday, December 18, 2012

A courteous advocate of gun control



Text of the tweet:
And you wonder why the rest of the world hates the US. People like you are the scum of the earth. I hope you're the next victim                  


(Please leave any comments at Triablogue.)

Friday, December 07, 2012

Blogology

A student at the local university wrote in to the Abolish Human Abortion page, requesting an interview with one of the agitators-in-residence.
I volunteered, as a I certainly qualify as an agitator.
The questions and their answers allowed me to delve into some of the reasons I blog the way I do and live the way I do. Perhaps they will interest you too.

     Would you consider yourself to be pro-life or pro-choice?
I am an abolitionist of human abortion, so entirely pro-life.

     What factors do you attribute to presenting a strong argument for your point of view?
Reasoned analysis and logical coherency. Also, since the question of abortion is fundamentally a moral question, the issue of authority must be dealt with fundamentally, lest one commit the naturalistic fallacy.

     Which of these would you say is the most important?
Probably the question of authority. It's most important because it's so little understood.

     Communication competence is defined as the balance of appropriateness and effectiveness. For example, one would want to be more appropriate than effective when explaining a complex problem in a formal setting. Whereas, one would want to be more effective than appropriate when attempting to persuade an opposing party to agree with your perspective. When debating a controversial issue, like abortion, describe how you manage these two variables in order to make a strong argument.
There is one answer for face-to-face scenarios and another for Internet-based interactions. 
Face-to-face: I make an effort to judge the initial parameters of the encounter, the context, the way the person approached me or the trigger that brought me to approaching them. For example, discussing this question at work during “work time” as an aside is different from discussing it at work during break is different from “on the street” encounters is different from family. And of course, as the situation develops and body language, tone of voice, volume of voice, level of interruption, etc, proceed, I must adapt. Most times, since most people are incapable of maintaining calm during these types of debates, I must move toward less effectiveness and more appropriateness, in an effort to continue the interaction and lessen the risk of the interlocutor(s) simply losing their temper or disengaging altogether.  
In some cases I have moved toward more effectiveness/stridency in these encounters. That sort of thing is definitely the minority of occurrences and usually happens because I have detected a particularly pernicious hypocrisy or, in at least one case, where a promising discussion was developing with Person X but then Person Y intervened out of nowhere and seemingly turned Person X's demeanor totally against me, such that X became unwilling to consider my position seriously.
Internet-based interactions are usually very different because one does not have the benefit of access to body language, tone of voice, etc. Further, people that one meets on the street, for example, are not necessarily particularly interested in discussing the issue or do not necessarily have a great deal of confidence in their abilities to discuss it. If someone seeks out my blog or the Abolish Human Abortion page, however, and of their own free will open a dialogue by posting a comment, it is a safe assumption that they are willing to discuss the issue. This doesn't guarantee they are OK with a reply once it is given or that they do indeed have any knowledge, as sometimes people merely reply with an emotional drive-by comment, but the chances are greater. 
Another relevant consideration: what is said on the Internet is in most cases semi-permanent, whereas words spoken face-to-face are transient.
A final consideration: Someone like an AHA admin or a Christian “godblogger” (of which I am both) has seen the same challenges repeated dozens of times and maintaining patience is challenging with the same things over and over, so that contributes to a more strident tone of writing, more clipped replies, less benefit of the doubt given to the challenger.