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Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Blowing up atheism

Let me be the 17th or so to direct one and all to the new (and free of charge) ebook from the Triabloggers - The Infidel Delusion.
I expect it to be a more direct and more destructive critique of the new atheist arguments, coming against such men as Richard Carrier and Hector Avalos.  I actually personally regard some of these "lesser luminaries" of atheism like Carrier and Avalos, as well as Stephen Law and John Shook, as some of the best representatives of atheism in the world today, at least as far as I've seen.  They're not that great, don't get me wrong, but they're far better than Hitchens, Dick Dawk, or Sam Harris!  (Or John Loftus, who is also heavily represented in the book to which T.I.D. is responding, but no one ever said atheists were all that discerning.) So anyway, I expect this ebook to be quite good, and by page 8 it hasn't yet disappointed.

And if you're looking for a smackdown directed at the big-name New Atheists, don't forget to catch Steve Hays' devastating review of Dick Dawk's The God Delusion.  If you're looking for a less-than-optimal and heretical (ie, Open Theist-ic), but still quite serviceable, destruction of their position, check out Vox Day's (also free) ebook The Irrational Atheist (which I have read in its entirety).  Enjoy!

Update:  Speaking of John Loftus, he blunders his way through an initial refutation of T.I.D. here.  Notice also the dismissive comments from the (as yet unnamed) contributors to The Christian Delusion that he references.
"I have looked over their objections, and they are pretty superficial."
Really?  Questioning your basis for asserting moral value of any action whatsoever, questioning the justification for your epistemology, those are "superficial"?  Either this person invented a new meaning for the word "superficial" or they are dishonest or they didn't really look over the book (in which case...yeah, they're being dishonest).
I would imagine there'll be more coming from Loftus et al in response to T.I.D., and you have to give Loftus props for not running away like Romanists have run away from the Holy Scripture: The Ground and Pillar of Our Faith series.  Unfortunately, Loftus' objections are generally superficial and very emotionally-driven, and thus not particularly helpful for the seeker of truth.