"My position is that God wrote the Bible in conjunction with these ancient tribesmen."
As you would say, prove it.David,
I love it. As *I'd* say? Notice how I'm the one demanding evidence in this thread. Me, the Christian fundy Bible-thumper. And the skeptics, the "freethinkers" are whining about my always demanding evidence. There's some irony, some poetic justice in that. Can't put my finger on it...
Anyway, I do so by the impossibility of the contrary.
OTOH, since we're discussing which worldview accts for morality and rape and all that, it's unnecessary for me to adduce proof for my position. We're comparing which worldview can best acct for whether rape is evil.
Besides, I've repeatedly asked you to prove empiricism, and you, um, haven't even tried.
The Qur'an also purports to be the word of God; what methodology do you use in determining that the Qur'an is simply a human book while the bible is a not?
I test its internal consistency first, and if it does have internal consistency on the major points of it, I'd move on to other tests. But I don't have to move on, for it very obviously lacks internal consistency.
unless I can positively refute your fantastical claims, then they must be true.
Don't be so dense. You made a negative statement. I asked you to prove it, knowing you can't. Now you're whining b/c someone called you on making an indefensible statement.
I'm saying you should change your statement if you can't substantiate it. Something like "I've seen no evidence that God exists".
At which point I'd ask you how you could be so sure you hadn't seen it but just missed it or refused to accept it.
At which point you'd backtrack again and say that you can't think of any evidence for God's existence that you accept as compelling.
At which point I'd snicker b/c you'll have so far made 2 indefensible statements, and then go on to ask you if you can think of any evidence for evidence's existence that you accept as compelling. You'd then no doubt retreat yet further to a blind faith position - "but, but, but...if we can't use evidence, we're lost!!!!1" And I'd respond with "Exactly, now please tell me why I should accept your argument from undesirable consequences". At which point you'd change the subject.
I've made a testable prediction. Prove it wrong.