*Editorial Note: Pulpit & Pen continues in unrepentant sin and enabling of the ongoing sin of Jordan Hall. While it is my understanding that P&P does not plan to take down the content I contributed, any role I can play in reducing their traffic until they repent, I will. Thus I migrate this article here.
The Wichita, KS child sacrifice center whose halls George Tiller once stalked, weapons in hand, is once again open for its bloody and awful business. Not content with murdering children in Kansas, however, the South Wind Women’s Center is crossing state lines to open a branch in south Oklahoma City, right in the middle of a (surprise, surprise) majority-minority area. The better to cull the undesirables from the human race, my dear.
The pro-aborts clearly don’t fear pro-life legislation. Oklahoma is widely appreciated as the most pro-life state in the Union. There are many pro-life laws on the books, restricting abortion activity, setting requirements for abortion mills and their personnel to meet. And still they build. Senate Bill 1552 (the bill supported by the Republican Christian pro-lifers of Oklahoma over and against SB 1118, which would have labeled abortion as legal homicide) has good momentum and appears on the road to being signed into law. And still they build. Still they invest in child sacrifice in Oklahoma. They don’t fear because they are actually on the same team as the leaders of the pro-life movement.
And how’s this for a trick? They hire pro-life people to do their work for them! You see, the building chosen to house this new altar to Molech is the former home of an eye clinic. The place is shut down now, under renovation. The inside is gutted, steel joists exposed without any sheetrock, basic infrastructure construction underway. South Wind’s general contractor has done his job well, having hired pro-life Christians to build a modern death camp in the middle of a major American Midwestern city.
Rick, a worship leader from an evangelical church in Noble, OK, headed up Butler Plumbing, Inc’s effort to install the plumbing and pipes down which the blood of children will wash into city sewers.
Yarbrough & Sons Heat and Air of Blanchard, OK is headed up by good Christian men. They were informed of the nature of their project and chose not to lose $30,000 rather than walk off the job that would keep the abortionist in air-conditioned comfort as she rips babies’ faces off.
Crown Electric of Yukon, OK and Trek Electric of Edmond, OK just plain don’t care that their electrical wiring will power the weapons that will cut through flesh, bone, and cranial matter to reduce beautiful creations of God to gore and blood-red sludge in exchange for cash.
Matthew 16:24-27 – Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.”
2 Corinthians 6:14-16 – Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols?
Proverbs 31:8-9 – Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.
If you are reading this, please contact these companies and call them to repentance. Please leave a review on Facebook, calling them to repentance. Please leave a review on other business and review websites like Yelp or Angie’s List, exposing their evil deeds for all to see.
Butler Plumbing, Inc – 405-635-8942 – Facebook page
Yarbrough & Sons Heat and Air – 405-485-3470 – Facebook page
Crown Electric – 405-324-9555 – Facebook page
Trek Electric – 405-748-6330 – Facebook page
Ephesians 5:11 – Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them.
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Tuesday, March 22, 2016
Wednesday, December 30, 2015
Abortuary Deathscorts: How Do Their Families Justify This?
*Editorial Note: Pulpit & Pen continues in unrepentant sin and
enabling of the ongoing sin of Jordan Hall. While it is my understanding
that P&P does not plan to take down the content I contributed, any
role I can play in reducing their traffic until they repent, I will.
Thus I migrate this article here.
The Gestapo furnace escorts had families, too…and I’m sure their families were proud of the men (and women) they became. I can hear it now: “Just got mixed up with the wrong crowd. It was all their superiors’ faults that they ended up, you know, facilitating the murder of thousands of Jews. Little Heinrich was such a good boy. Everyone loved him. And besides, you know, those Jews, I mean, of course they didn’t all deserve to die, but they sorta had it coming anyway…”
We at Pulpit & Pen brought you the continuing story last week of police officers in Norman, OK working as deathscorts at the child sacrifice center run by Baby-Murderer-In-Chief Larry Burns, not only taking blood money to help secure the premises from violent incursion, but indeed offering moral aid and comfort to the murderous parents, boyfriends and husbands, and grandparents that partronise this altar to Molech, and doing so in official police regalia and using official police cruisers.
The plot thickened when the Abolitionist Society of Norman coordinated exposure efforts with Pulpit & Pen to call attention to the police support of this ongoing atrocity, specifically Lt. Jeff Robertson of Norman PD. One Cynde Robertson, a resident of Noble, OK, just to the south of Norman, happened across the post and jumped in of her own free volition to defend her deathscort rent-a-cop brother Jeff Robertson.
I wish I were in a position to say that the churchianity lingo that flowed forth so liberally from her keyboard is unusual, almost unique. Sadly, it is all too common, whether online or in an evangelistic/apologetic/polemic context on the street or at the abortion mill. Churchgoing people say these things all the time. Just expect it.
So, what do we have here?
-The deathscort rent-a-cop is a Christian and serves an Awesome God
-We will all be judged
-It is slander and hatred to reveal the truth about what this officer does while off-duty and wearing badge, uniform, equipment, and full paraphernalia and driving a marked police cruiser
-Nobody will be judged for killing babies
-If we were really repentant of our sins, we would not judge others
-God is the only judge that matters
This guy gets it. But alas, the level of biblical literacy required even to make a snappy and accurate meme is lacking in the vast majority of American churchianity settings, whether a pew-sitter or an employee of thereligious service provider church.
Cynde was not content to let it rest there. No, this was no drive-by discomfiture, no mock walk.
Of course, what we encounter with a biblical neophyte wouldn’t be complete without a citation of Matthew 7 (though to her credit and surprisingly enough, she didn’t end the citation with verse 2), some statements judging us for judging others because she judged that judging others is bad so we are placed under her judgment for placing someone under our judgment, a gripe that nobody’s perfect so we shouldn’t care about holiness or obedience, a reminder that God is bigger than things that are smaller than God, and an admonition not to stone anyone to death unless we ourselves have achieved sinless perfection. I suppose we can all stand amazed that the word “Pharisee” never appeared in that thread and that “pharisaical” showed its pretty little face only once.
So, you see, the real bad guys here are those abolitionists who give up much to stand in freezing temperatures for hours so as to try to turn people back from the slaughter, proclaim the law of God and the good news of Jesus Christ, and rescue those being taken away to death. The baby killer himself, his staff, the murderous parents, the pressuring boyfriends and grandparents, the complicit friends, the rent-a-cops paid in blood money? They’re all good people. You don’t know their story. You don’t know where they’ve been. Who are you to judge them?
Take a time machine back 70 years and make the same defense of a Gestapo guard who killed Jews. Hey, it’s not like Jews were human beings. Why are you so mean and judgmental? He was just following orders. He didn’t actually gas Jews himself. All of the same arguments work perfectly. That should bother you.
Pulpit & Pen has been given information that indicates that Cynde Robertson and her brother Jeff Robertson, spiritual descendant of the Gestapo furnace escorts, attend religious services performed by JourneyChurch.tv, and Cynde let us know in the thread she attends those services every Sunday as does Jeff. Cynde was also kind enough to reveal to the world that she is a Level / Thrive brand promoter, so if anyone would like to do business with someone who defends modern-day Gestapo because don’t judge other people, feel free to give her a call.
One might also ask Pastor Clark Mitchell of Journeychurch.tv what he thinks about these sorts of people taking up seats at his light-and-fog worship experience weekend rigmaroles. Does he care? Does he even know who they are? (We all know the answer to those questions. They’re just rhetorical.)
At some point, you sort of run out of words to say. Maranatha.
The Gestapo furnace escorts had families, too…and I’m sure their families were proud of the men (and women) they became. I can hear it now: “Just got mixed up with the wrong crowd. It was all their superiors’ faults that they ended up, you know, facilitating the murder of thousands of Jews. Little Heinrich was such a good boy. Everyone loved him. And besides, you know, those Jews, I mean, of course they didn’t all deserve to die, but they sorta had it coming anyway…”
We at Pulpit & Pen brought you the continuing story last week of police officers in Norman, OK working as deathscorts at the child sacrifice center run by Baby-Murderer-In-Chief Larry Burns, not only taking blood money to help secure the premises from violent incursion, but indeed offering moral aid and comfort to the murderous parents, boyfriends and husbands, and grandparents that partronise this altar to Molech, and doing so in official police regalia and using official police cruisers.
The plot thickened when the Abolitionist Society of Norman coordinated exposure efforts with Pulpit & Pen to call attention to the police support of this ongoing atrocity, specifically Lt. Jeff Robertson of Norman PD. One Cynde Robertson, a resident of Noble, OK, just to the south of Norman, happened across the post and jumped in of her own free volition to defend her deathscort rent-a-cop brother Jeff Robertson.
I wish I were in a position to say that the churchianity lingo that flowed forth so liberally from her keyboard is unusual, almost unique. Sadly, it is all too common, whether online or in an evangelistic/apologetic/polemic context on the street or at the abortion mill. Churchgoing people say these things all the time. Just expect it.
So, what do we have here?
-The deathscort rent-a-cop is a Christian and serves an Awesome God
-We will all be judged
-It is slander and hatred to reveal the truth about what this officer does while off-duty and wearing badge, uniform, equipment, and full paraphernalia and driving a marked police cruiser
-Nobody will be judged for killing babies
-If we were really repentant of our sins, we would not judge others
-God is the only judge that matters
This guy gets it. But alas, the level of biblical literacy required even to make a snappy and accurate meme is lacking in the vast majority of American churchianity settings, whether a pew-sitter or an employee of the
Cynde was not content to let it rest there. No, this was no drive-by discomfiture, no mock walk.
Of course, what we encounter with a biblical neophyte wouldn’t be complete without a citation of Matthew 7 (though to her credit and surprisingly enough, she didn’t end the citation with verse 2), some statements judging us for judging others because she judged that judging others is bad so we are placed under her judgment for placing someone under our judgment, a gripe that nobody’s perfect so we shouldn’t care about holiness or obedience, a reminder that God is bigger than things that are smaller than God, and an admonition not to stone anyone to death unless we ourselves have achieved sinless perfection. I suppose we can all stand amazed that the word “Pharisee” never appeared in that thread and that “pharisaical” showed its pretty little face only once.
So, you see, the real bad guys here are those abolitionists who give up much to stand in freezing temperatures for hours so as to try to turn people back from the slaughter, proclaim the law of God and the good news of Jesus Christ, and rescue those being taken away to death. The baby killer himself, his staff, the murderous parents, the pressuring boyfriends and grandparents, the complicit friends, the rent-a-cops paid in blood money? They’re all good people. You don’t know their story. You don’t know where they’ve been. Who are you to judge them?
Take a time machine back 70 years and make the same defense of a Gestapo guard who killed Jews. Hey, it’s not like Jews were human beings. Why are you so mean and judgmental? He was just following orders. He didn’t actually gas Jews himself. All of the same arguments work perfectly. That should bother you.
Pulpit & Pen has been given information that indicates that Cynde Robertson and her brother Jeff Robertson, spiritual descendant of the Gestapo furnace escorts, attend religious services performed by JourneyChurch.tv, and Cynde let us know in the thread she attends those services every Sunday as does Jeff. Cynde was also kind enough to reveal to the world that she is a Level / Thrive brand promoter, so if anyone would like to do business with someone who defends modern-day Gestapo because don’t judge other people, feel free to give her a call.
One might also ask Pastor Clark Mitchell of Journeychurch.tv what he thinks about these sorts of people taking up seats at his light-and-fog worship experience weekend rigmaroles. Does he care? Does he even know who they are? (We all know the answer to those questions. They’re just rhetorical.)
At some point, you sort of run out of words to say. Maranatha.
Thursday, February 21, 2013
A conversation with an abortician?
It is alleged that a real-life abortician emailed Abby Johnson with some choice words about abolitionists of human abortion, as well as a sorta-kinda-half-apology.
Abby Johnson takes the opportunity to toot her own method's horn, and we pause to yet note that all she can point to is this person of possibly fake provenance saying he was sorry for how mean he has been to pro-lifers in the past/ How is it that the method "worked" exactly? I thought we were supposed to save babies. I don't see any saved so far.
Anyway, here is how it all went down.
The alleged abortician allegedly wrote to Abby, then we took the opportunity to reply on our Facebook wall as follows:
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An abortician, whose identity we think we might know, recently sent this message to someone in the pro-life movement:
---While you're at it, tell the crew at "Abolish Human Abortion" to cut the sh*t too. Anyone who likes them, hates, extremely hates each and every person that goes into a clinic; down on the women, huh? Yes! They proudly tell you who they are with..and I have never met a more arrogant bunch of sh*t talkers who think they know everything and anything about everyone. "WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU!", one shouted. Can't anyone go to work in peace? You can't without being beat up with words. If one seriously thinks that helps anyone, they're out of their flipping minds. If they're not shouting at you, they do other things, no sane person would do, but it's their "right" to protest. Need I say the word "murderer" too? Nice Christians. They call themselves "Christian" and in the name of their God..they call people names? Need I go any further? It's all hatred! Go away and everything will be just fine.---Let's be clear: No true abolitionist would *EVER* say *ANYTHING* like "I am better than you" in any other way than a joke, and we would never joke in such a way with anyone who is considering abortion. The law of God convicts us all of sin, and the law and the Gospel of God are serious business. We will proclaim the sinfulness of all humans, the need of all humans for Jesus the Savior, and the fact that we are all equally in need of Jesus's forgiveness.
A true abolitionist would include in his or her message (depending on the amount of time available to him/her) the fact that, in the eyes of God, the abolitionist deserves to spend eternity in Hell, in torment, because of his/her sin, just as much as the serial baby murderer/abortician does.
We are all sinners. Nobody is better than anyone else. Jesus stands alone as the crown of humanity, as the very radiance of the Father's glory and the exact representation of His nature, the one who upholds all things by the word of His power.
Any abortician who claims an abolitionist said something like "We're better than you!" either has missed the "not" in between the "We're" and the "better", has misunderstood, or is flatly lying. But this person is sadly deceived - "go away and everything will be just fine"? Another 50 babies murdered per week is "just fine"?
We've been saying this a long time. http://blog.abolishhumanabortion.com/2011/04/we-are-not-better.html
Let the lies of the enemy all be seen for what they are.
As for us, we will not rest until we have glorified Jesus with the way we spend every minute of our lives and the way we proclaim the holy law and the glorious Gospel of Jesus, and until we have effected abolition.
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Interestingly, we then received an email through our website Contact page, claiming to be the man who had written to Abby.
Linked here is the email "Roger" sent.
We must admit that it is unclear whether this really is an abortician. Generally, aborticians have university-level education, and while they are trained in medicine rather than English expression, one would expect a higher level of discourse from someone who has spent at least 5 years in post-high-school graduation, even if he were a product of the government school system. Perhaps our expectations are too high.
Here is my first response:
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Hello Roger,
Thanks for writing!
I guess you're right about one thing - I was mistaken about your identity. That's OK - men who lie to women and oppress others to heap up blood money for themselves are quite common, so no harm done.
I would like to clarify something, though. You claim that those who line up outside your abortuary and proclaim God's law and reflect God's own accusations are engaging in "hatred", but you don't understand the motivation behind doing that. I don't know those people personally and I don't know if they have ever heard of abolition or Abolish Human Abortion; they may be simply very pro-life people for all I know. However, in all probability their motivation is to call abortive women as well as death merchants like yourself to repent, because you are headed for Hell. It matters not one bit whether you believe in Hell any more than it matters whether you believe in policemen when they pull you over for speeding. People who go out to abortuaries to intervene are hopeful that people's souls will be saved. Most of them, if not all, are out there because we have LOVE for the people you're lying to, the babies you're murdering, and you yourself, with your blackened and evil soul. We love you so much that if you would only repent of your great sin and ask for forgiveness, we would grant it with overwhelming JOY.
You claim that graphic pictures push people away from us. If I may take a moment to chuckle, please believe that the day when we take advice on abolition from someone like you is very far away indeed. The Bible says that all people are born dead in sin, and it's hard to go much farther than that! We proclaim the law of God, which you violate every day for pay, that murder is evil and God will not overlook it nor allow unrepentant murderers to enter His presence. We want to wake people up and those pictures are one avenue for doing so. Besides, those pictures are the results of your own work! What's wrong with showing your handiwork in the daylight? Are you ashamed of it or something?
You claim we "beat people over the head with a Bible". I don't even know what that means, but I do know that I am amazed that someone who writes like you was able to obtain a medical degree. That's a pretty funny joke. Or maybe you don't have a medical degree any more than I beat people over the head with a Bible.
If you mean that I am sometimes forced to warn people about the terrible mistake they're about to make and offer them a better way, sure, I do that. Murdering a child is literally the worst outcome possible for a person. The only thing worse is to do it for money day after day, over and over.
You say that the law of God doesn't do much good on an atheist, and yet you took the time to write to me, a Christian whose location you don't even know, to justify yourself.
The Bible says that you know full well that the God of the Bible exists but you suppress the truth in wickedness. You know He exists, and that He will judge you in anger one day. Stop denying what you know to be true! Repent! Turn back from your evil! He will forgive even repentant murderers like yourself because He has died on the cross to save sinners and risen again to give them eternal life. Turn. Repent. You must. If you don't, you will have eternity to regret it.
You claim it's obvious someone in my "crew" thinks they're better than someone else.
A few responses:
1) It is not inconceivable that someone doing abortuary work said something unwise, foolish, or even straight-up wrong.
2) I don't know to whom you refer, so I can't comment on the specifics.
3) If they said it, they're wrong. All of us need Jesus to forgive us. We are all born dead in sin, and we are all wretches in need of mercy.
4) Why do you care if someone says he's better than you? You're an atheist! It's not as if there exists any overarching moral imperative that says "thou shalt not think thou art better than anyone else", right?
You say the question depends on how one looks at what life is. This is absolutely true, and you have clearly lied so much to yourself that you believe your own press. Ridiculous. The baby you dismember is obviously alive! He or she is not a rock!
Finally, you invite me to justify myself. Why would I need to do that? What have I done wrong? On atheism, what have the protesters in front of your murder mill done wrong? Displeased you? So what?
Peace from a redeemed fool to a fool,
Rhology
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Roger then replied, which is linked here.
Interestingly, his final line was:
Respond kindly, people are watching.
We am unsure whether this meant as a cryptic implication that he is not really an abortician but rather an anti-abolitionist plant in the employ of someone else, but no matter.
Here is the reply to Roger:
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Hello Roger,
You know, I can't decide whether I think you're really who you claim you are or if you're a hireling from some anti-abolitionist well-ensconced pro-life personage. Neither would surprise me, honestly.
I will speak to you as though you are who you say you are, though.
You claim you've detected a condescending attitude. To this I have a few responses:
1) It is unintentional.
2) Truth often sounds condescending to those who hate the truth and hate correction. One might say the math teacher is snooty, insisting that 2+2 actually does equal 4, in case the student has other ideas.
3) Is there some sort of moral objection to being condescending? You're an atheist. Tell me - who says people shouldn't be condescending?
You say you sense a dark, militant attitude.
I am not sure what you mean by militant, but I can assure you of a few things:
1) We will never resort to physical violence to effect or further abolition.
2) In the philosophical, spiritual, ideological, political, and moral arenas, we are absolutely militant. Jesus commanded us to be that way, and to do no less. We will obey Him even if that means we have to displease serial baby murderers like yourself.
3) The darkness is in *your* heart. We are obeying the biblical command to expose evil that is done in darkness and to bring it to light. That's why you object to street signs portraying the carnage that comes about because of your work.
Trying to help you understand you stand in great danger of eternal condemnation and torment in Hell and need to repent and be forgiven by Jesus is the most loving thing we could do for you.
We would forgive, yes, and so would Jesus. But you need to be much more concerned with Him, since He has the power to judge you and cast you into Hell, and will not hesitate to do so at the time of His choosing if you do not repent.
And yes, it is absolutely an imperative. If you do not, you will face the most dire possible consequences from the Almighty God of the universe. You must repent, just like we all must. We are abolitionists because we have repented of our sin and now follow Jesus instead of ourselves and our own interests. You need this too.
You said I have a wrong view of atheism. Do tell so that I may avoid such errors in the future.
You say you want God to show up at your door. That's already happened. Jesus came to Earth already, died on the cross, and rose from the dead in real space-time history. Do a little investigation and you will find the facts are undeniable.
Also, Jesus said that His people, His church, are in a very real way His body. They are the ones at your door with signs and offering to help people turn away from paying you to murder their baby. Just because you don't choose to see it that way makes no difference. The problem is in your sin-blackened heart. Repent of your sin and turn to Jesus and you'll know what I mean.
You accuse those who are outside your abortuary of "disrupting that which is legal". Certainly you must be aware that many evils have in the past been legal - slavery, pedophilia, etc. Abortion is merely one more evil that is currently legal, but not for much longer. And if they can convince people not to go to pay you to murder their child, that's only "disruption" in one biased and arbitrary definition. Rather, they are exercising free speech and trying to persuade. That's hardly worthy of condemnation.
Besides, if atheism is true, what moral obligation does anyone have to obey a law? It's only something the majority imposed on those who disagree. See, you have to think about these things a little more deeply.
How precisely is murdering a child "health care"?
Yes, "fool" is a biblical word. Feel free to search for it at, say, www.biblegateway.net
Finally, you said:
\\Respond kindly, people are watching.\\
Yes, I know they are. That's one of the reasons I think you may be a hireling from some anti-abolitionist, but it could just be coincidental that you said this bizarre thing. Anyway, I am happy to let my words be public, a whole lot more than you're willing to let the light of day shine on what you do for blood money every week.
Peace,
Rhology
Thursday, August 09, 2012
Ugly black babies
I invite you to view this brief video of Charlotte, NC abortician Ron Virmani during what seems to be the aftermath of some Christians knocking on his front door. I believe this video is profitable for numerous reasons, and I would like to share them with you.
We most certainly applaud the good brethren at Operation Save America for their gutsy willingness to take a camera crew to the front door of this serial child murderer and knock. Such men (for they are virtually always men) deserve to be exposed for what they do.
Abortionists are those who “lie in wait for blood” (Proverbs 12:6), “make the fatherless their prey” (Isaiah 10: 2), and profits exceedingly from the extermination of innocent human life. They live in our towns and walk freely in our world, yet murder the innocent in their hidden places (Pslam 10:8-9).
Christians who have embraced their calling to walk in the light and expose the deeds of darkness in our present age while they work to bring about their lawful abolition must confront these vicious men of lawlessness with both truth and love.
Scripture plainly instructs Christians to refuse to "participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light." (Ephesians 5:11-13). Yet Scripture also commands us to "Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God" (1 Peter 2:13-16).
We most certainly applaud the good brethren at Operation Save America for their gutsy willingness to take a camera crew to the front door of this serial child murderer and knock. Such men (for they are virtually always men) deserve to be exposed for what they do.
Abortionists are those who “lie in wait for blood” (Proverbs 12:6), “make the fatherless their prey” (Isaiah 10: 2), and profits exceedingly from the extermination of innocent human life. They live in our towns and walk freely in our world, yet murder the innocent in their hidden places (Pslam 10:8-9).
Christians who have embraced their calling to walk in the light and expose the deeds of darkness in our present age while they work to bring about their lawful abolition must confront these vicious men of lawlessness with both truth and love.
Scripture plainly instructs Christians to refuse to "participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light." (Ephesians 5:11-13). Yet Scripture also commands us to "Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God" (1 Peter 2:13-16).
We are to be "blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation, among whom [we] shine as lights in the world" (Phillipians 2:15).
Now... Consider how the Operation Save America people in the video above spoke to Dr. Virmani.
Granted, it is only a 38-second video clip until Virmani rudely closes the door, but notice who is emotional, angry, and hostile, and who is peaceable, laid-back, and calm.
In my personal experience, in these kinds of encounters it is virtually always the experienced follower of Jesus who is calm and collected in those kinds of face-to-face exchanges, whereas the non-Christian very often (certainly not always, but far more often than otherwise) is belligerent, raises his voice in anger, and fails to retain coherent thought due to his rage. The stereotypical view that Christians' hackles are easily raised in offense and anger is, in my view, probably a product of experiences that some people have had with immature Christians and even false professors of Christianity, who lack confidence in what they are saying. Very rarely will an experienced believer in Jesus get all bent out of shape (again, in my experience), whereas I have seen numerous instances of unbelievers, atheists, pro-aborts, etc of a roughly equivalent level of experience and training become very easily provoked and offended.
Virmani begins in the clip by insisting that pregnancy and adoption not be "put... on the taxpayers". One would assume that he does not, then, take any money from the government for his abortions. Or is he only willing to assign "murdering tiny humans" to the taxpayers' dime? Is he concerned that raising humans to thrive is more expensive than murdering them? That is certainly true, there's no denying it. Applying this reasoning consistently, why would we not extend the murder-grace-period to born children? Those are often quite expensive.
The OSA brethren ask an excellent question: "What does that have to do with the babies?"
The correct answer is, obviously, that it has nothing to do with them. Virmani, of course, has no desire to admit the obvious.
The lady with OSA asks Virmani: "You would rather profit off of those children?"
Virmani responds: "No no no, I am not profiting."
This is a lie. I wonder if Virmani really thinks that anyone believed him?
It certainly seems like he's doing OK financially to me.
Virmani continues with a bizarre tangent: "I as a taxpayer do not wish to pay for those babies to be brought up to be born and kill those people in Colorado."
Apparently Virmani believes that the children he is dismembering in the womb will grow up to be serial killers, so he is doing us all a favor by killing them before they can do that.
The answer to this twisted thinking is obvious - nobody knows what any of these now-dead children would have grown up to become. Perhaps one or more of them would have discovered a way to prevent all further gun massacres in the world. Perhaps one would have cured cancer and AIDS and perhaps another would have become a great philanthropist and composer of music. Virmani can't see the future. We don't know and neither does he.
Since we don't know and since life and death are not given into our hands in that way, we must not impose ourselves into what God has said is His business, His alone.
Virmani: "Let me see you adopt one of those ugly black babies."
He would, obviously, do well to either avoid all confrontation with anyone in the future or get some serious PR and debate training, and I mean immediately. A semi-public figure like him has no excuse to let slip his racist ideology like that.
Notice, by the way, that these three OSA folks pictured on camera are Caucasian, while Virmani appears to be of Indian origin. Aren't Caucasian Southern Christians supposed to hate black people, according to the stereotype? Yet we are the ones offering to adopt them and thus intentionally create a mixed-ethnicity family and we are the ones who want the African-American population to increase instead of decrease because of mass abortion. Ironically, however, pro-aborts want to paint us as the ones who are full of hate.
He goes on to further challenge the OSA folks to adopt. We have addressed this low-quality objection at great length already. I have to say, it is sort of pathetic that this career abortician has not bothered to familiarise himself with even the most basic of pro-life argumentation. Perhaps he finds it too emotionally bothersome to read because it convicts him of his sin, but it seems to be a breach of professionalism not to know the justification for why one does what one does.
Virmani finishes: "Take them off the taxpayers' money."
Apparently he is not a fan of President Obama, who wants more people to be on the government welfare payroll. Or perhaps he is merely extremely inconsistent and a fool (Foolishness, Godlessness, and shedding the blood of innocent human beings goes hand in hand. See the Psalms. In particular Chapters 10 and 14).
Virmani's poor thinking and weird argumentation are merely evidence of a depraved man trying to justify himself while his conscience, while seared and nearly dead, is still kicking and wiggling inside his soul. Unfortunately for him, continuing in obstinate, unrepentant sin just tightens the screws on that conscience and lessens any chance he will have for forgiveness and eternal life. He has his reward in full.
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Granted, it is only a 38-second video clip until Virmani rudely closes the door, but notice who is emotional, angry, and hostile, and who is peaceable, laid-back, and calm.
In my personal experience, in these kinds of encounters it is virtually always the experienced follower of Jesus who is calm and collected in those kinds of face-to-face exchanges, whereas the non-Christian very often (certainly not always, but far more often than otherwise) is belligerent, raises his voice in anger, and fails to retain coherent thought due to his rage. The stereotypical view that Christians' hackles are easily raised in offense and anger is, in my view, probably a product of experiences that some people have had with immature Christians and even false professors of Christianity, who lack confidence in what they are saying. Very rarely will an experienced believer in Jesus get all bent out of shape (again, in my experience), whereas I have seen numerous instances of unbelievers, atheists, pro-aborts, etc of a roughly equivalent level of experience and training become very easily provoked and offended.
The OSA brethren ask an excellent question: "What does that have to do with the babies?"
The correct answer is, obviously, that it has nothing to do with them. Virmani, of course, has no desire to admit the obvious.
The lady with OSA asks Virmani: "You would rather profit off of those children?"
Virmani responds: "No no no, I am not profiting."
This is a lie. I wonder if Virmani really thinks that anyone believed him?
It certainly seems like he's doing OK financially to me.
Virmani continues with a bizarre tangent: "I as a taxpayer do not wish to pay for those babies to be brought up to be born and kill those people in Colorado."
Apparently Virmani believes that the children he is dismembering in the womb will grow up to be serial killers, so he is doing us all a favor by killing them before they can do that.
The answer to this twisted thinking is obvious - nobody knows what any of these now-dead children would have grown up to become. Perhaps one or more of them would have discovered a way to prevent all further gun massacres in the world. Perhaps one would have cured cancer and AIDS and perhaps another would have become a great philanthropist and composer of music. Virmani can't see the future. We don't know and neither does he.
Since we don't know and since life and death are not given into our hands in that way, we must not impose ourselves into what God has said is His business, His alone.
Virmani: "Let me see you adopt one of those ugly black babies."
He would, obviously, do well to either avoid all confrontation with anyone in the future or get some serious PR and debate training, and I mean immediately. A semi-public figure like him has no excuse to let slip his racist ideology like that.
Notice, by the way, that these three OSA folks pictured on camera are Caucasian, while Virmani appears to be of Indian origin. Aren't Caucasian Southern Christians supposed to hate black people, according to the stereotype? Yet we are the ones offering to adopt them and thus intentionally create a mixed-ethnicity family and we are the ones who want the African-American population to increase instead of decrease because of mass abortion. Ironically, however, pro-aborts want to paint us as the ones who are full of hate.
He goes on to further challenge the OSA folks to adopt. We have addressed this low-quality objection at great length already. I have to say, it is sort of pathetic that this career abortician has not bothered to familiarise himself with even the most basic of pro-life argumentation. Perhaps he finds it too emotionally bothersome to read because it convicts him of his sin, but it seems to be a breach of professionalism not to know the justification for why one does what one does.
Virmani finishes: "Take them off the taxpayers' money."
Apparently he is not a fan of President Obama, who wants more people to be on the government welfare payroll. Or perhaps he is merely extremely inconsistent and a fool (Foolishness, Godlessness, and shedding the blood of innocent human beings goes hand in hand. See the Psalms. In particular Chapters 10 and 14).
Virmani's poor thinking and weird argumentation are merely evidence of a depraved man trying to justify himself while his conscience, while seared and nearly dead, is still kicking and wiggling inside his soul. Unfortunately for him, continuing in obstinate, unrepentant sin just tightens the screws on that conscience and lessens any chance he will have for forgiveness and eternal life. He has his reward in full.
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